Talk of Change Podcast

A show designed to inspire and deepen your life and
leadership both at home and at work.

Season 4: Welcome to Change

Find and Resource Intentional People

 Most people are under-resourced, but the problem is they don’t know what they want and need or how to ask for it. A meaningful life requires overcoming these challenges and finding the support of a tribe.  The Personal Circle is an intentional gathering of people who have already invested in your life to the extent

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The Search for Meaning

We all want a meaningful life but are becoming less willing to wait patiently. We are impulsive and fixated on the instant hit of endorphins, more so the substance of character. Meaning requires a developmental mindset, and that takes time. You cannot microwave the deep life. We also never know which moments may become a

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Avoiding Relationships with Distance

Have you ever been distanced or cut off by a family member, friend, or community without notice or choice? Or maybe you have done so to someone yourself. Of course, you have! We often use unhealthy Distance and Cutoffs to manage the fears, anxiety, and insecurities that arise in relational or communal systems. We find

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You, Me, Us

Many of us learned how to find safety and healing for the inevitable wounds of life by being more defensive, independent, or self-sufficient. To live a meaningful life requires letting down the drawbridge, coming out of the fortress at some point, and courageously reaching for interdependence with others. While Denial, Distraction, and Determination have become

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Refresh Your Meaning

Most people want to live a meaningful life, but there is often a gap between this hope and the reality of how they feel and what they do.  If you are tired, exhausted, and overwhelmed by the hustle and grind, you are not alone.  Let’s explore how to make more sense of our lives, stories,

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Find and Resource Intentional People

 Most people are under-resourced, but the problem is they don’t know what they want and need or how to ask for it. A meaningful life requires overcoming these challenges and finding the support of a tribe.  The Personal Circle is an intentional gathering of people who have already invested in your life to the extent

Listen Now »

The Search for Meaning

We all want a meaningful life but are becoming less willing to wait patiently. We are impulsive and fixated on the instant hit of endorphins, more so the substance of character. Meaning requires a developmental mindset, and that takes time. You cannot microwave the deep life. We also never know which moments may become a

Listen Now »

Avoiding Relationships with Distance

Have you ever been distanced or cut off by a family member, friend, or community without notice or choice? Or maybe you have done so to someone yourself. Of course, you have! We often use unhealthy Distance and Cutoffs to manage the fears, anxiety, and insecurities that arise in relational or communal systems. We find

Listen Now »

You, Me, Us

Many of us learned how to find safety and healing for the inevitable wounds of life by being more defensive, independent, or self-sufficient. To live a meaningful life requires letting down the drawbridge, coming out of the fortress at some point, and courageously reaching for interdependence with others. While Denial, Distraction, and Determination have become

Listen Now »

Refresh Your Meaning

Most people want to live a meaningful life, but there is often a gap between this hope and the reality of how they feel and what they do.  If you are tired, exhausted, and overwhelmed by the hustle and grind, you are not alone.  Let’s explore how to make more sense of our lives, stories,

Listen Now »

Season 3: Emotionally Intelligent Humans

I feel sad, calm, and lonely (S3:E6)

Bringing the Big Twelve to a close, Rob and Natalie spend time talking about feeling sad, calm, and lonely. What if sadness led to acceptance and hope instead of self-pity and lethargy? What if calmness opened the door to clarity and peace instead of avoidance or apathy? What if loneliness invited connection and solitude instead

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I feel ashamed, cared-for, and hurt (S3:E5)

In this episode, we explore three more of the twelve emotions. Rob and Natalie cover the feeling of shame and how it can lead you towards being human or being in contempt of being human. Cared-for can be more complicated than you think, and feeling hurt doesn’t feel very good for most adults. Keep listening,

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I feel angry, excited and guilty (S3:E4)

In this episode, we continue to explore another three of the twelve emotions. Rob and Natalie talk about how anger is vital for progress, excitement for joy, and guilt for safety. Once we learn to understand and use the same words to describe our “insides,” relationships can soar to new heights. I feel, you feel,

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Finding your feelings (S3:E3)

Learning to share an emotional language is vital for healthy individuals and communities. Feelings, much like the color of our blood, like death and desire, remind us that we are all equally human, created with common realities, common motivations, and common bonds that transcend the intricacies of our individual lives. Core Emotions and affect labeling have

Listen Now »

Catching up to yourself (S3:E2)

Who are you truly? Life has a way of pushing us into specific roles and responsibilities to survive and thrive in various seasons. Emotional health begins to emerge when we can start to recover and engage our core sense of self rather than be overrun by these roles. Join Rob and Natalie for this second

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How do you feel about feelings? (S3:E1)

Join Rob & Nat: Are feelings good or bad? Do they help us or hurt us? I have spent significant time in my life and career researching, studying, practicing, and being mentored in the field of emotional intelligence and resilience. As a result, I have become keenly aware that these simple questions are answered in

Listen Now »

I feel sad, calm, and lonely (S3:E6)

Bringing the Big Twelve to a close, Rob and Natalie spend time talking about feeling sad, calm, and lonely. What if sadness led to acceptance and hope instead of self-pity and lethargy? What if calmness opened the door to clarity and peace instead of avoidance or apathy? What if loneliness invited connection and solitude instead

Listen Now »

I feel ashamed, cared-for, and hurt (S3:E5)

In this episode, we explore three more of the twelve emotions. Rob and Natalie cover the feeling of shame and how it can lead you towards being human or being in contempt of being human. Cared-for can be more complicated than you think, and feeling hurt doesn’t feel very good for most adults. Keep listening,

Listen Now »

I feel angry, excited and guilty (S3:E4)

In this episode, we continue to explore another three of the twelve emotions. Rob and Natalie talk about how anger is vital for progress, excitement for joy, and guilt for safety. Once we learn to understand and use the same words to describe our “insides,” relationships can soar to new heights. I feel, you feel,

Listen Now »

Finding your feelings (S3:E3)

Learning to share an emotional language is vital for healthy individuals and communities. Feelings, much like the color of our blood, like death and desire, remind us that we are all equally human, created with common realities, common motivations, and common bonds that transcend the intricacies of our individual lives. Core Emotions and affect labeling have

Listen Now »

Catching up to yourself (S3:E2)

Who are you truly? Life has a way of pushing us into specific roles and responsibilities to survive and thrive in various seasons. Emotional health begins to emerge when we can start to recover and engage our core sense of self rather than be overrun by these roles. Join Rob and Natalie for this second

Listen Now »

How do you feel about feelings? (S3:E1)

Join Rob & Nat: Are feelings good or bad? Do they help us or hurt us? I have spent significant time in my life and career researching, studying, practicing, and being mentored in the field of emotional intelligence and resilience. As a result, I have become keenly aware that these simple questions are answered in

Listen Now »

Season 2: Home & Work

Heath Slawner – YOUR CULTURE (S2:E8)

In this final episode of the Home & Work Connected Series, Rob interviews Heath Slawner on the topic of organizational culture. Heath works alongside some of the business world’s leading thinkers and researchers (including Simon Sinek‘s team) to uncover how leaders can bring teams together to achieve extraordinary results. What do all great organizations have in

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Bob Westfall – YOUR ORGANIZATION (S2:Ep7)

Organizations often fail to have, or capitalize on a corporate vision that can positively and constructively inspire, energize, and inform leaders and teams. How can you get better at transitioning from transactional to transformational and turning both you employees and customers into ambassadors? Rob Murray talks with Bob Westfall on this episode about navigating this

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Brad Stinson – YOUR TEAM (S2:Ep6)

It has been well established that Purpose is an essential human need. It is easy to forget this when considering team culture. Rob Murray & Brad Stinson talk in this episode about the incredible opportunity that exists for leaders, teams, and organizations who seek to intentionally recover and align around Purpose both at work and

Listen Now »
Mansfield

Dr. Stephen Mansfield – YOUR LEADERSHIP (S2:Ep5)

While recovery from a leadership crash is usually possible, what if we could instead learn to recognize the prior warning signs and intervene before it happens at all? Join Rob Murray with Dr. Stephen Mansfield in this first episode of part two on the Home & Work Connected series, where they talk about ten very

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Brooks Gibbs – YOUR CHILD (S2:Ep4)

There are limitations to what parents, communities, and governments can, and should even do in an attempt to shelter and protect young people from being bullied. However, children are not powerless to solve their social problems yet that’s become a foundational premise in our society. Rob Murray spends time with Brooks Gibbs on the Talk

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Dr. Chip Dodd – YOUR PARENTING (S2:Ep3)

Kid’s don’t need perfect parents. That statement is easier to say than to believe right?  Children, like a partner or spouse, offer a powerful opportunity to grow your capacity for connection. That growth can positively translate into other areas of your life, including at work.  Rob Murray spends time with Dr. Chip Dodd on the

Listen Now »

Dr. Sue Johnson – YOUR PARTNER (S2:Ep2)

In this second episode of the Home & Work Connected series, Rob Murray talks with Dr. Sue Johnson, an author, clinical psychologist, researcher, professor, and leading innovator in the field of couple therapy and adult attachment.  Relationships: How can we enhance, repair and keep them? When we feel safe at home in our relationships, it offers

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Jack Nicholson

Jack Nicholson – YOUR SELF (S2:Ep1)

Nothing about your life is happening within a vacuum. In this session, Jack Nicholson and Rob Murray set the tone for this whole Talk of Change series by sharing from the intersection of the human and the context in which they express themselves. You cannot risk overlooking either sides of this work and home polarity

Listen Now »

Heath Slawner – YOUR CULTURE (S2:E8)

In this final episode of the Home & Work Connected Series, Rob interviews Heath Slawner on the topic of organizational culture. Heath works alongside some of the business world’s leading thinkers and researchers (including Simon Sinek‘s team) to uncover how leaders can bring teams together to achieve extraordinary results. What do all great organizations have in

Listen Now »

Bob Westfall – YOUR ORGANIZATION (S2:Ep7)

Organizations often fail to have, or capitalize on a corporate vision that can positively and constructively inspire, energize, and inform leaders and teams. How can you get better at transitioning from transactional to transformational and turning both you employees and customers into ambassadors? Rob Murray talks with Bob Westfall on this episode about navigating this

Listen Now »

Brad Stinson – YOUR TEAM (S2:Ep6)

It has been well established that Purpose is an essential human need. It is easy to forget this when considering team culture. Rob Murray & Brad Stinson talk in this episode about the incredible opportunity that exists for leaders, teams, and organizations who seek to intentionally recover and align around Purpose both at work and

Listen Now »
Mansfield

Dr. Stephen Mansfield – YOUR LEADERSHIP (S2:Ep5)

While recovery from a leadership crash is usually possible, what if we could instead learn to recognize the prior warning signs and intervene before it happens at all? Join Rob Murray with Dr. Stephen Mansfield in this first episode of part two on the Home & Work Connected series, where they talk about ten very

Listen Now »

Brooks Gibbs – YOUR CHILD (S2:Ep4)

There are limitations to what parents, communities, and governments can, and should even do in an attempt to shelter and protect young people from being bullied. However, children are not powerless to solve their social problems yet that’s become a foundational premise in our society. Rob Murray spends time with Brooks Gibbs on the Talk

Listen Now »

Dr. Chip Dodd – YOUR PARENTING (S2:Ep3)

Kid’s don’t need perfect parents. That statement is easier to say than to believe right?  Children, like a partner or spouse, offer a powerful opportunity to grow your capacity for connection. That growth can positively translate into other areas of your life, including at work.  Rob Murray spends time with Dr. Chip Dodd on the

Listen Now »

Dr. Sue Johnson – YOUR PARTNER (S2:Ep2)

In this second episode of the Home & Work Connected series, Rob Murray talks with Dr. Sue Johnson, an author, clinical psychologist, researcher, professor, and leading innovator in the field of couple therapy and adult attachment.  Relationships: How can we enhance, repair and keep them? When we feel safe at home in our relationships, it offers

Listen Now »
Jack Nicholson

Jack Nicholson – YOUR SELF (S2:Ep1)

Nothing about your life is happening within a vacuum. In this session, Jack Nicholson and Rob Murray set the tone for this whole Talk of Change series by sharing from the intersection of the human and the context in which they express themselves. You cannot risk overlooking either sides of this work and home polarity

Listen Now »

Season 1: Welcome to Change

You Can’t Escape the Family System: Dr. Kathleen Smith

You do not live and die within a vacuum.  Families are systems of interconnected and interdependent individuals, none of whom can be understood in isolation from the system. Emotional connections, rules, and agreements have and continue to be forged within that system, usually centered around managing anxiety. Once the research view shifts from the individual to

Listen Now »

If I Only Had a Heart: Jeff Schulte

This is an extremely personal episode for Rob Murray and his story as he connect with Jeff Schulte from Tin Man, a past guide and now friend, mentor, and coworker.  Many people live life alone, trapped in the prison of their own intellect, morality, and self-will. Despite being hard-wired for intimate relationships, our fear and shame

Listen Now »

Facing Your Anxious Dragons: Jonathan Rios

Anxiety can often feel like you have a thousand-pound boulder hanging over your head, ready to crush you at any given time. In this episode on the Talk Of Change podcast, Rob chats with Jonathan Rios, focusing on this very relatable topic. We can often fuse who we are with what we do. Threats that

Listen Now »

Winning is Everything – Troy Murphy

In this episode, Rob talks with Troy Murphy, a former marine and chaplain for the Green Bay Packers. There are huge pressures on many of us at work to win! Much like the NFL, winning is often defined by whatever brings in the most money. For players to make the NFL is a massive deal,

Listen Now »

Good Grief: Janina Tiner

Life can be extremely challenging. It goes a long way in the healing journey to offer respect and purpose to those parts of ourselves that have gone off to war and need to return home. In this episode, Rob Murray interviews Janina Tiner about her experience as a certified IFS, Grief, and EMDR Specialist. Together

Listen Now »

How To Solve Your People Problems: Dr. Alan Godwin

No matter how much you’re attracted to someone’s positives, you’ll eventually encounter their negatives when you get in close. In fact, the closer the connection, the more likely it is that friction will occur. But all conflict is not created equal. Drawing on years of counseling experience, Dr. Alan Godwin offers conversation and advice to

Listen Now »

You Can’t Escape the Family System: Dr. Kathleen Smith

You do not live and die within a vacuum.  Families are systems of interconnected and interdependent individuals, none of whom can be understood in isolation from the system. Emotional connections, rules, and agreements have and continue to be forged within that system, usually centered around managing anxiety. Once the research view shifts from the individual to

Listen Now »

If I Only Had a Heart: Jeff Schulte

This is an extremely personal episode for Rob Murray and his story as he connect with Jeff Schulte from Tin Man, a past guide and now friend, mentor, and coworker.  Many people live life alone, trapped in the prison of their own intellect, morality, and self-will. Despite being hard-wired for intimate relationships, our fear and shame

Listen Now »

Facing Your Anxious Dragons: Jonathan Rios

Anxiety can often feel like you have a thousand-pound boulder hanging over your head, ready to crush you at any given time. In this episode on the Talk Of Change podcast, Rob chats with Jonathan Rios, focusing on this very relatable topic. We can often fuse who we are with what we do. Threats that

Listen Now »

Winning is Everything – Troy Murphy

In this episode, Rob talks with Troy Murphy, a former marine and chaplain for the Green Bay Packers. There are huge pressures on many of us at work to win! Much like the NFL, winning is often defined by whatever brings in the most money. For players to make the NFL is a massive deal,

Listen Now »

Good Grief: Janina Tiner

Life can be extremely challenging. It goes a long way in the healing journey to offer respect and purpose to those parts of ourselves that have gone off to war and need to return home. In this episode, Rob Murray interviews Janina Tiner about her experience as a certified IFS, Grief, and EMDR Specialist. Together

Listen Now »

How To Solve Your People Problems: Dr. Alan Godwin

No matter how much you’re attracted to someone’s positives, you’ll eventually encounter their negatives when you get in close. In fact, the closer the connection, the more likely it is that friction will occur. But all conflict is not created equal. Drawing on years of counseling experience, Dr. Alan Godwin offers conversation and advice to

Listen Now »